What’s really going on at Oracle and River.

January 5, 2009


I have been getting lots of emails from people receiving citations at the intersection of Oracle and River. Most of you are getting cited for 28-645A3A.

Well…This is the way the law reads..

3. Red indication:
(a) Except as provided in subdivisions (b) and (c) of this paragraph, vehicular traffic facing a steady red signal alone shall stop before entering the intersection and shall
remain standing until an indication to proceed is shown.

Let me try to explain how this works.

Some Background:

Tucson has lagging Green arrows. Meaning, when the intersection turns from yellow to red, the intersection allows traffic to turn left by indicating a Green LEFT arrow. Typically the time between the red light coming on and the Green arrow allowing left turns is about a second, if that..sometimes the green arrow is immediate.

Technically, what the city of Tucson is citing you for is; entering the intersection, Behind another vehicle already in the intersection,  and the light turning red….even though the driver gets an immediate green arrow or the vehicle attempting to clear the intersection from a yellow arrow. If you had been the first vehicle in the intersection, you would not have been cited.

This is NOT the typical “RED LIGHT” violation we think of. This is capturing drivers clearing the intersection that spilt second between the light turning red and the green arrow turning Green or a vehicle clearing the intersection from a yellow left turn arrow.

It’s Chicken Crap Law Enforcement, and its why Police Officers should enforce the Law, not Cameras! The city of Tucson knows these are easy citations to hand out.

If you receive a citation, you have the right to subpoena relevant evidence. Such as maintenance records, individuals maintaining the equipment, the company installing the equipment, any relevant city records such as light timing changes, city traffic engineers, etc.

One may even argue to a Judge that the equipment be removed to allow an independent expert examine the equipment to make sure the equipment to operating correctly.

Call your representive and tell them to remove these cameras…NOW!

Mayor and Council Citizen Comment Line: (520) 791-4700

Mike Hein, Town Manager
255 West Alameda Street
Tucson, Arizona 85701
Phone: (520) 791-4204
FAX: (520) 791-5198
E-Mail: mike.hein@tucsonaz.gov

Council Member Regina Romero
Ward 1 – Westside/Southside/Downtown
940 W. Alameda Street
Tucson, Arizona 85745
Phone: (520)  791-4040
FAX: (520)  791-5393
Email: ward1@tucsonaz.gov

Rodney Glassman
Northeast Ward Two
7575 E. Speedway
Tucson, Arizona 85710
Phone: (520) 791-4687
FAX: (520) 791-5380
E-Mail: ward2@tucsonaz.gov

Vice Mayor, Karin Uhlich
Ward III
1510 East Grant Road
Tucson, Arizona 85719
Phone: (520)  791-4711
FAX: (520)  791-5391
E-Mail: ward3@tucsonaz.gov

Council Member Shirley Scott
Southeast Ward Four
8123 E. Poinciana
Tucson, Arizona 85730
Phone: (520)  791-3199
FAX: (520)  791-4717
E-Mail: ward4@tucsonaz.gov

Council Member Steve Leal
Southside Ward Five
4300 South Park Avenue
Tucson, Arizona 85714
Phone: (520)  791-4231
FAX: (520)  791-3188
E-Mail: steve.leal@tucsonaz.gov

Council Member, Nina J. Trasoff
Midtown Ward Six
3202 East 1st Street
Tucson, Arizona 85716
Phone: (520)  791-4601
Fax: (520)  791-3211
E-Mail: ward6@tucsonaz.gov

– Bill